The new era of green infrastructure

Submitted by David Beach  |  Last edited March 18, 2010 - 4:51pm
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Natural stream corridor of Doan BrookIt's not often that public officials get to do something truly transformational for Greater Cleveland. The board members of the Northeast Ohio Regional Sewer District (NEORSD) did so on Jan. 7 as they voted to approve the creation of a new stormwater program.

This program is one of the most important developments for local water quality that I have seen in the past 25 years. At last we will have an agency with professional staff and construction budget to deal with stormwater on a watershed basis. We will be able to make real progress on the region’s most serious remaining water quality problems, getting to the root of problems instead of sending them downstream.

This program can be our green infrastructure agency. It can help our region become a leader in retrofitting the urban landscape to reduce stormwater runoff and restore ecological functioning. This is one of our best opportunities for creating the green city on a blue lake that we all dream about. 

Capacity to redesign the urban landscape

The NEORSD stormwater program was just one of the big organizational capacity additions in the past year that will allow Greater Cleveland to rethink the urban landscape. The second was the creation of the Cuyahoga County Land Bank, which provides new legal and financial capacity for acquiring and accelerating the reuse of vacant properties.

The land bank can be used to assemble property in a strategic way for redevelopment or for environmental restoration. For instance, the land bank could work with the stormwater program to piece together parcels along urban stream corridors or in locations where wetlands could be created. The vision could be of a more livable urban area with active nodes of higher density development in some places interspersed with regenerated greenspace.

Several projects are studying the patterns of vacant property in Cuyahoga County to envision what is possible. The ReImagining Greater Cleveland 2.0 project (organized by ParkWorks, Neighborhood Progress Inc., and the Cleveland Urban Design Collaborative), is sponsoring pilot projects to test the types of alternative land uses that will work best on vacant land. The Cleveland Cuyahoga County Food Policy Coalition is studying how to transform vacant urban land into urban agriculture sites that will strengthen the regional food system.

And the last year also brought new scientific capacity to analyze the restoration of urban land in Greater Cleveland. A consortium of local researchers — from institutions including Cleveland State University, Cleveland Metroparks, Ohio State University, Kent State University, and the GreenCityBlueLake Institute — received a grant from the National Science Foundation for urban ecology research. The consortium will seek to measure the effectiveness of land restoration strategies.

All of these exciting initiatives are evidence of a growing interest in transforming the old industrial landscape. By retrofitting vacant land, we can build a new kind of sustainable city that works with nature.

January 26, 2010 - 6:02pm

which ones discharge to oceans?

Susan Miller Says:

The regions that were able to use more green infrastructure are discharging into oceans and have different (higher) levels of allowable discharge/events.
The map you post from the EPA site does not indicate which cities they are, but it looks like precious few of the overall number are discharging to oceans. Certainly Milwaukee is not. Toronto is not. EPA considers downspout disconnects a best management practice - one of many. Here they list some interesting case studies. I am still confused...

January 27, 2010 - 4:26pm

Rebates should drive downspout disconnect policies

Brad Chase Says:

I don't have any notes on systems that are discharging to oceans vs great lakes.  I seem to recall that we talked about what Philadelphia was doing with green infrastructure and that one of the reasons it worked there for CSOs was because of different EPA discharge standards.

On downspout disconnects specifically, no doubt this is a best management practice that local communities should be trying to do when feasible.  My understanding from our conversations with NEORSD is that they don't feel they can dictate what ordinances are passed in a local municipality, and therefore can't require downspout disconnects.  On the other hand, if NEORSD built disconnects as an assumption into their CSO reduction program, then it would give them the incentive to approach local municipalities to actively change their ordinances.  This may be a board policy call, but perhaps one worth exploring. 

One positive change from the stormwater program rebates for homeowners is that conceivably 1000s of homeowners will be asking their city councils to change or implement legislation allowing downspout disconnects (or at least rain barrel connections) and rain gardens so that residents can claim the rebate.   This stormwater rebate should help drive quicker adoption of downpsout disconnects.

February 3, 2010 - 3:13pm

EPA doesn't have "different standards"

Susan Miller Says:

That must have been it. I was wondering what happened during that meeting when you sort of glazed over and moved the conversation into anther direction. You were satisfied. Your satisfaction based on an erroneous idea that made it into your thought process was a part of what derailed the discussion as I recall.

EPA doesn't have "different standards for discharging into fresh water and oceans". Just confirmed this with EPA Region 5 (Great Lakes Region) office in Chicago (where they disconnect their downspouts). Thank god, I thought I was losing my mind - what a preposterous idea - but whatever. They encourage downspout disconnects wherever they are possible to decrease CSOs and or the unneccesary treatment of clean water in treatment plants.

It seems like it might have been better for you to have a different meeting to discuss the energy needs of NEORSD in their treatment plants, transportation, and cement pouring sectors. I wonder how many BTUs, KWHs are spent by the sewer district. Good question. Be sure to ask how much money we would save if we didn't treat all that clean water, too.

Maybe this will help: www.docstoc.com/docs/2567051/How-to-Use-This-Spreadsheet

I still don't buy the idea that NEORSD cannot or should not "lead" in the area of green infrastructure, LID and softpath. Why shouldn't they try to save money?

Look at it this way - NEO's population is shrinking, taxpayers and ratepayers are still leaving - NEORSD is tying themselves down with a concrete albatross in these big tunnels. OK, but couldnt' we just drive a bit of incentive toward true green (not concrete) infrastructure and lend a hand - us peasants that is? Nobody at NEORSD need worry about job security - they'll have their jobs. But who should be talking to the city councils of the cities that have combined sewers? I say it would be in NEORSDs best interest.

Maybe they're just not looking far enough down the road. Maybe you're not either.

January 26, 2010 - 2:03pm

Additional stormwater data

Brad Chase Says:

Here are some of my notes from the Feb 25, 2009 meeting with NEORSD. Concerns were brought up at the meeting, including:
- why the CSO program wasn't integrated with the stormwater program;
- why individuals couldn't do more (for both CSO and stormwater management);
- could the sewer district provide modeling numbers for rain events, and show impact (or lack of impact) of individual actions

Stormwater management and fees 
The stormwater and sanitary/combined sewers are different programs, addressing different problems, and using different sources of revenue.  Although there is some overlap and potential that the stormwater program could help with CSOs, many (most?) of the proposed stormwater projects are in areas with separated sewers and proposed to correct flooding, erosion and water quality issues - issues that are hard to control through individual action, or where individual action could worsen the problem (see map at link below)

I have posted information given as color handouts at the meeting relating to:
- comparison of stormwater rates by city;
- NEO stormwater problem areas; and
- NEO construction project and maintenance locations (including proposed 2010 and 2011 project locations).

This data is from early 2009 and before, so things may have changed or been updated. I have not seen an updated list of projects. Some of the scans may need to be viewed in large format to see small text, so I would recommend saving them and opening locally as they don't always display properly on the website. http://www.gcbl.org/image-galleries/water/stormwater-management-and-csos

Combined sewer overflows and individual actions
My notes from the meeting indicate that the main problem with individuals doing more as part of the NEORSD program (specifically relating to CSOs) relates to EPA Region 5 standards for water discharge into freshwater. The regions that were able to use more green infrastructure are discharging into oceans and have different (higher) levels of allowable discharge/events.

NEORSD is working under stipulation with EPA that there be 4 or less events per year (an event being an overflow), not actual gallons of overflow per year.  So on the CSO side, their modeling shows they need to capture 250,000,000 million gallons (rough estimate for a 4 month storm) to meet the EPA requirement and provide for possible additional runoff events, and there isn't any level of confidence that this can be done with green infrastructure alone.  

Questions from the meeting:
- It seems to make more sense to regulate the actual amount (gallons) of overflows, instead of the number of events (answer: this isn't the current legal agreement with EPA)
 - Would we rather have 15 smaller overflows or 3 large overflows at 250,000,000 gallons each?  Also, what is being done to actually eliminate CSO outfalls? (answer: some are being eliminated, but many will remain, but just not discharge under projected conditions)

It seems that some of the questions need to be asked of EPA and why they are requiring the current standards for CSOs into freshwater, especially if the community desires more green infrastructure solutions. The downside could be that allowing for more green infrastructure may actually increase the amount of untreated sewage flowing into lakes and rivers. Again, these were my rough notes from almost a year ago.

EDIT:  I also posted a runoff calculation that we did after the meeting for the Museum property.  Using the equation V = Area (sq ft) x Rainfall (feet) x System loss (.9) x 7.5 (gallons per cubic foot), we calculated that a 1" rain event would create over 70,000 gallons of runoff that would need stored.  http://www.gcbl.org/image/cmnh-rainwater-runoff-calculation-example

January 24, 2010 - 1:14pm

discussion online

Susan Miller Says:

In this thread, both David and Kyle have suggested that we may call or email them to discuss this. Thank you very much, but I have spoken with both of you privately already and will be glad to do so in the future.

However, I think this conversation belongs right here online where others can join the discussion. That's the beauty of the internet - more voices and no hierarchy - less "behind the scenes". Open and transparent.

Stormwater concerns us all. And don't get me wrong, I agree that we have a massive problem and I am willing to contribute to addressing it and solving it for seven generations. I am just curious as to why it should not, could not be aided by citizen action and not just citizen money.

January 24, 2010 - 1:04pm

how many gallons?

Susan Miller Says:

Kyle,

Since you have determined that we need to hold (and then treat?) or absorb 5 billion gallons of runoff, what are the calculations for the impact of downspout disconnects?

Am I correct in understanding that the huge sums are for storage tunnels and treatment?

From Where does it go?: "to reduce these overflows and to meet epa mandates, the District is building gigantic storage tunnels to hold the overflow until the rains subside and our treatment plants can process the water. these tunnels provide relief for overloaded pipes, which can help local communities alleviate sewer backups and flooding problems"

How did you determine that if municipalities can be convinced that they should change their codes to allow for disconnects and education programs were implemented to have homeowners do so, this would only solve X part of the problem? What would X equal in your study of the issue?

I am just/still curious about how you arrived at the amount of grey and green infrastructure that will be required. It would be interesting to know what the impact of downspout disconnects have been in other communities. Surely NEORSD has gathered this information. In communities that I have researched (Toronto for example - read Staff Report-PDF), they publicly state that treating stormwater that can be absorbed in the property owner's pervious area is costly - too costly.

What will the cost be for treating all this additional stored roof runoff. Since in slighter rain events all my home's clean runoff is presumably treated via the combined sewer system which goes to the treatment plants, you must surely have some idea of the cost of treating runoff vs sanitary sewer outputs. No?

Also, this is an interesting new finding that might have impacts for future water issues and may change the way we have thought about water in the ground for 100 years. Water Hits and Sticks: Findings Challenge a Century of Assumptions About Soil Hydrology

January 22, 2010 - 11:06pm

NEORSD replies

Kyle Dreyfuss-Wells Says:

Glad to see stormwater generating a vigorous discussion. We as a region have two big stormwater related issues and NEORSD is leading on both:

1) Five billion gallons per year in remaining combined sewer overflows, and 2) $228 million in growing flooding, erosion, and water quality problems across the City of Cleveland and 61 communities which make up NEORSD’s service area.

We at NEORSD are eager to discuss these issues. Please contact me at 216-881-6600, ext. 6414 or Dreyfuss-wellsK@neorsd.org if you want to talk stormwater. To briefly clarify some points raised so far, I offer the following:

1) Downspout disconnection: NEORSD supports municipalities in allowing this and we will encourage disconnects by offering credits under the regional stormwater management program. We don’t control local ordinances, however, so please remember it is each community’s decision to allow this practice.

2) Disconnection to a rain garden: Disconnecting a downspout without an area available to absorb the water could cause flooding for your neighbor. Please direct water flow to a rain garden or other low lying area of your property where the stormwater can slow down and soak in. If you don’t have such an area, disconnection may not be right for your property.

3) Combined Sewer Overflows: We've made lots of progress, reducing CSOs from 9 to 5 billion gallons. We still have work to do and are looking at all options – grey and green infrastructure - to get the job done with the most benefits to the region.

4) CSOs and downspout disconnection: Downspout disconnects alone can not solve the remaining 5 billion gallons. A broad range of innovative strategies will need to be used in combination. Also, remember there are impervious streets and sidewalks we all share that contribute to the problem and many properties simply do not have enough room to handle all of their stormwater on-site.

Also a few points on the upcoming stormwater program, fees, and credits:

1) Properties – residential, commercial, and institutional – will pay a fee based on the amount of impervious surface (rooftop and driveway).

2) Why a fee based on impervious surface? Impervious surface causes more runoff and more runoff causes flooding, erosion, and water quality problems. The monies generated by this fee will go to fix the current problems and minimize new concerns.

3) Residential properties will be in tiers – small (less than 2000 square feet of impervious surface), medium (between 2,000 and 4,000 square feet of impervious surface) and large (more than 4,000 square feet impervious surface). The fee will be $2.85/month for small, $4.75/month for medium, and $8.55/month for large.

4) Non-residential properties will pay based on their amount of impervious surface at a rate of $4.75/3,000 square feet of impervious surface/month. For example, a commercial building and its parking lot that have 120,000 square feet of impervious surface will pay $190/month.

5) We have measured the impervious surface of properties in our service area using analysis of aerial photography and geographic information system tools.

6) We will offer credits for stormwater control measures – not just downspout disconnects but good stormwater basins, rain gardens, bioswales, and other great ideas - that control a parcel’s runoff and mitigate its impacts on flooding, erosion, and water quality.

I hope that helps clear things up. Please call or e-mail if you would like to talk further.

January 22, 2010 - 2:09pm

Water vs Land Values

David George Says:

I think that as the stored ground water and glacial and snow melt reserves vanish, that the land values in NEO will become some of the highest in the nation, if not the world!See if I'm wrong in 30 to 50 years. The storm water tax and the land bank will be an intergal part of this conservation of the natural resourse that will bring the Great Lakes into the forefront in the future. Any and all solutions major or trivial will guarntee this legacy for the next generation. Lete just get it done!!!

January 24, 2010 - 11:50am

Contaminated

lmcshane Says:

And those waters will be contaminated, because there has been no attempt to actually regulate land use in NEO, if the "right" folks want the land--

SEE: http://realneo.us/content/tracked-more-mud-house-hope-its-not-contamenated-today-fire-plug-blocked-big-truck-can-you--0

Kyle--thank you for showing up here.  Your former house in Tremont was primed for the development that occurred by the city garden I started in the 1990s.  You know and I know that Reimagining Cleveland is a circus show promoting a load of crap. 

So, here's your pretty garden...and once you INVEST years of TIME and $$$ amending a property it will become the next place to plant tax-abated condos.  Sorry to be so crass, but that is how it works around here.

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