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(1-28-10) Ohio is awarded $400 million in federal high speed rail funds to update the state's existing freight lines and introduce the 3-C passenger rail service connecting Cleveland-Columbus-Dayton-Cincinnati . Read more.
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(4-6-10) "There has been a lot mentioned in the media recently about the speed of Ohio’s passenger rail service," writes Jon Milenthal, marketing consultant for the 3-C rail project. "Most recently, there has been some confusion over whether Ohio would need to build new tracks to achieve service at 110-MPH. The current plan is to roll-out passenger rail service along the Cincinnati-Dayton-Columbus-Cleveland at speeds of 79-MPH. The simple answer to the question about whether new tracks would be necessary for achieving speeds of 110-MPH is 'no'."
Read this white paper to understand how the 3-C will work with the freight rail companies. This will be one of ODOT’s first orders of business once the Controlling Board approves the first $25-million in spending.
Go here to write a letter of support to state officials.
(4-2-07) Two bills (S.294 and H.R. 1300) were introduced to Congress to address America’s woefully under-capitalized rail system by unclogging railroad traffic bottlenecks, allowing Amtrak to acquire new train equipment and availing federal funding for new, short-distance services like those envisioned in the state’s emerging Ohio Hub Plan, including fast trains linking Cleveland - Columbus - Dayton - Cincinnati (3-C Corridor). All Aboard Ohio strongly encourages Gov. Ted Strickland and ODOT Director James Beasley to urge the Ohio Congressional Delegation to support both bills.
(6-26-06) U.S. House does not include request to fund the Programmatic Environmental Impact Study for the Ohio Hub passenger and freight rail in its Fiscal 2007 House Transportation Appropriations bill. All Aboard Ohio is campaigning for senators Voinovich and DeWine's support for funding the bill. See above if you're interested in contacting your senator.
(5-26-06) Lawmakers voted unanimously to pass a resolution in support of the Ohio Hub, which was sponsored by Senator Kirk Schuring (R-29-Canton). The Ohio House is considering a similar resolution introduced by Representative Larry Flowers (R-19-Canal Winchester).
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Executive summary shows project is unrealistic
Stephen Gross Says:Ok, I read the executive summary for the ohio rail project. The numbers don't make sense to me! Consider Cleveland-to-Columbus: The distance is 135 miles. It usually takes just over two hours to get there. If your car gets around 30mpg, you're looking at $23.40 in gas costs (at $2.60/gallon). Throw in wear&tear on your car, and the trip costs maybe $25 roundtrip. The rail proposal would cut the time by ONLY 15 minutes, and it would cost $100 round-trip. So you're decreasing the time by about ten percent, and increasing the cost by four hundred percent. This is crazy! Who's going to use a service like that? How can rail planners reasonably think that these numbers make any sense!?!?!?
car ownership is not a given, and not so cheap to operate
Ryan McKenzie Says:This makes sense if we assume:
1) everyone already owns a car that's reliable enough to drive to Columbus and back, and
2) they wish to spend their time behind the wheel, and
3) they WANT to put that kind of wear and tear on their car, and
4) they don't mind spending lots of money on the fixed costs of car ownership in order to make gasoline costs their primary focus of a trip decision when headed to Columbus.
But in reality, lots of people don't own cars (25% of households in the City of Cleveland), and lots more don't own cars reliable enough to make that trip with confidence. Even more don't want to put another nail in the coffin of their car by driving it so far. And there are some people who, even if all the above are not true for them, simply don't want to be the one doing the driving. And finally, there are even more people who don't WANT to spend money on car ownership (now hovering at 21% of household income on average, and more for lower income households -- more than typically spent on housing in NE Ohio).
Gasoline is only about 10% of the annual cost of car ownership -- let's not make too much fuss about it. The killer is the front-end cost of the asset, and the price of insurance. As the owner of a car rental company, I also wish wear and tear only cost a couple of bucks on a trip of 250+ miles. The truth is that the IRS reimbursement rate for mileage still forces an employee to subsidize their employer -- cars cost more than 40 cents a mile to own and operate.
I have customers with their own cars who could get reimbursed by their employer at that rate for driving to Columbus and back, and they would rather use our cars than put the miles on theirs -- even for a reimbursement of more than $100. Those same people would prefer a train over driving our car, so they could spend the time reading, surfing the web on a laptop, or even catching up on sleep.
So let's not pretend that the entire travel market has a reliable car standing by, and is eager to drive. The real cost of that car trip to Columbus is much higher.
Rail travel for non-car owners
Stephen Gross Says:Ok, fair point. The implicit assumptions in my earlier argument are from the point of view of car owner. You're right to note that there's a decent number of people who don't own cars, and for whom the economics are different. So, what are their options? Car rental: I imagine you know more about the this than I do. What's the cost structure for renting a car and going back and forth to Columbus? The proposed rail travel: $100 for a round trip. That still seems pretty steep to me, especially if you're talking about someone who can't afford a car anyway. Is this really a viable option at this price point?
Rail cheaper than car travel
Marc Lefkowitz Says:All Aboard Ohio held its Rail/Transit Legislative Summit on March 7 in Columbus, and produced some interesting fact sheets on the value of building rail. See the links under "Resources" on the page above. Here are just two facts:
Based on Amtrak figures, the group estimates it costs $38 (per way?) on rail from Cleveland to Columbus versus $131 by car (most likely including gas, insurance, wear and tear).
Clevelanders spend 30% of their household income on transportation vs. 24% on housing, which prevents families from building wealth.
And, more good news—starting April 3, Amtrak’s daily eastbound Lake Shore Limited (Train #49) will offer daylight service between Cleveland and cities in New York. The same train will also offer overnight service between Chicago and downtown Cleveland. Train #49 is scheduled to arrive in Cleveland from Chicago at 6:22 a.m. and depart for New York at 7 a.m. First-class compartments, economy coach seating, lounge and dining services are available.
For the first time in 36 years Amtrak is offering convenient (not 3 a.m.) departures from Cleveland. Also, Tickets.Amtrak.com offers 'Hot Deals' or specials on ticket prices (around $100-140 round trip to New York).
Ohio Hub Advocacy
Dominic Liberatore Says:Before we are able to tweak route schedules and travel times, we as passenger rail advocates must create the political will in order to be able to address such minute topics. If we don't then like today, we will continue to have no passenger rail service connecting all of Ohio's major metropolitian cities together.
The most important thing any passenger rail advocate needs to do in the near future is to attend the April 26th statehouse lobby day where you can meet with your state senator and house member urging them to support the development of the Ohio Hub Plan. Specifically, we need to make sure congressman Latourette's appropriations request gets funded.
for more information please go to our website. www.allaboardohio.org